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   1. (no subject) ([email protected])
   2. OpenDivX Encoder -> OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest (Darrius "Junto" Thompson)
   3. OpenDivX Decoder ->OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest (Darrius "Junto" Thompson)
   4. General Development Discussion - All Projects -> OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest (Darrius "Junto" Thompson)
   5. Compliance ([email protected])

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:58:43 -0800
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:18:30 -0800
From: "Darrius \"Junto\" Thompson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenDivX] OpenDivX Encoder -> OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest



Topic:		problem I can't explain
Author:		gldblade
Posted:		 2001-02-28 00:24
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If you can get a hold of the movie The World Is Not Enough, you can use
it to see what happens.  In the opening scene, it can become very, very
blocky.  As in notice-at-once blocky.  I tried at a bitrate of 1600 and
it didn't do too well.  Meanwhile, DivX can do it at a bitrate as low as
800.  Anyway, good luck with solving the problem.


Topic:		compiled version with debugging symbols?
Author:		gruel
Posted:		 2001-02-28 07:32
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Hi,
sorry, if this is a little off-topic, but there is no forum, where it
fits better:

I received a beta-version of AMDs Codeanalyzer which seems to be quite
powerful (detecting pipeline stalls, including etc.)=20
Unfortunately the program/DLL to be anaylized has to be compiled with
debugging symbols and "program database" from MS Visual C/C++.=20

Since I don't have it (I'm a linux guy normally...) can anyone make a
compiled version of the codec with debug-flag and .pdb-file? Then
hopefully I can send back some results.=20
And/or is there any place where I can get a copy of visual C/C++
reeeeeally cheap?=20

chl ([email protected])
[ This message was edited by: gruel on 2001-02-28 07:32 ]


Topic:		alpha 48 + 16h
Author:		Georg
Posted:		 2001-02-28 07:37
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i have the ronin movie with the new 3.22a48
encoded ( flask ), my machine has worked 16!
hours. is this real?

sorry for my english=20
georg


Topic:		Does anybody want this?
Author:		M@dD1n
Posted:		 2001-02-28 09:42
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Well, I had the same idea of doin' that. I even started to work on it
some days ago. Now I found this thread...
Need any help?=20
My version isn't that good.
[addsig]


Topic:		problem I can't explain
Author:		doom9
Posted:		 2001-02-28 17:47
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Eagle: I've of course done that too.. my standard test procedure is to
watch the movie before I grab frames.. and the watching actually helps
me to take screenshots at the appropriate positions.=20

Now the problem I outlined (getting very blocky sometimes) looks
slightly less worse when using the DS filter (slider to the right) but
it's still clearly visible.


Topic:		How Do I Install The Encoder?
Author:		Super_Saiyan_Goku_SS
Posted:		 2001-02-28 20:46
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?



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:18:31 -0800
From: "Darrius \"Junto\" Thompson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenDivX] OpenDivX Decoder ->OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest




Topic:		Win 2000 Install
Author:		edouardliu
Posted:		 2001-02-28 01:32
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same happened here. When i used the playa (which gives out more
informative error message, thanks guys), it says it can't find
appropriate codec. i'm pretty sure the registry entry somewhere that
reads "vidc.divx" =3D "divx.dll" is correctly identifying media tag =
"divx"
... so what else could be the problem?

let me describe my situation here. i was using a previous divxwindows
decoder before (the one that came out without a directshow filter), but
i used the hacked divx filter for the replacement. when i installed the
new alpha48, i uninstalled the previous version first, made sure the
registry and files are clean. and then in the new package, i found out
that divx_.dll should have been called divx.dll ... installation worked
after fixing the file name.

otherwise ... i can't find any possible solution to the problem.


Topic:		Win 2000 Install
Author:		edouardliu
Posted:		 2001-02-28 12:21
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retried today. i thought there might be some conflict between the old
hacked dxshow filter and the new open filter UUIDs, but honestly i don't
know too much about how to identify the old dxshow other than using it's
old name "divx_c32" ... there might be some unclean stuff left in the
registry. who knows?

god hates all those COM interfaces and UUIDs.

i might need to compile a debug version myself to see if any of the
ax/dll get loaded at all. i really think it shouldn't be the registry
problem. it really shouldn't.


Topic:		Win 2000 Install
Author:		thekid
Posted:		 2001-02-28 13:59
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for the one bilionth time...

make sure you have the right codec...

please...

thekid...


Topic:		Understanding iDCT
Author:		eagle
Posted:		 2001-02-28 14:59
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One thing comes to mind - a lot of processor manufacturers have a
library of useful assembler-optimised routines.  Perhaps there already
exists an iDCT in ARM assembler, somewhere.  Of course, we'd need
permission to use it.


In fact, any ARM asm would help as a learning tool - a guide to opcodes,
coding style, etc.

It's silly to reinvent the wheel=20

eagle


Topic:		How Do I Install The Decoder?
Author:		Super_Saiyan_Goku_SS
Posted:		 2001-02-28 20:55
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:18:33 -0800
From: "Darrius \"Junto\" Thompson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenDivX] General Development Discussion - All Projects -> OpenDivX Daily Forums Digest




Topic:		auihjf3
Author:		Dan7859
Posted:		 2001-02-28 02:17
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Any guesses when OpenDivx and Microsoft's MPEG4 will be out of beta???


Topic:		Any guesses when OpenDivx and Microsoft's MPEG4 will be
out of beta???
Author:		Dan7859
Posted:		 2001-02-28 02:17
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Any guesses when OpenDivx and Microsoft's MPEG4 will be out of beta???


Topic:		can't build divx.dll
Author:		spec
Posted:		 2001-02-28 09:39
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I'm a silly guy,

it was easy :
in encore.dsw, I change :

project -> settings -> C/C++ -> category : code generation=20
-> use run-time library : Debug Multithreaded (instead of Debug
Multithreaded DLL)

Now I built divx.dll, I can try it (but what is the best encoder to use
it ??)

thanks to Andrea and Brians...

Spec


Topic:		Don't understand thing about performance. Need realtime.
Author:		Constantine
Posted:		 2001-02-28 12:58
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Tell me one thing - can any of MPEG4 encoders work in the realtime?
I looked through the given source and found that a lot of the "critical
time" sections are written on C - doesn't too fast I think.=20
I need 50-100 fps performance (384*288, color) in realtime - i.e. to
write live video.=20
I don't think OpenDivX or some of MPEG4 codecs have such possibilities.=20
So... I need one answer - can it? )


Topic:		Not YCbCr420?
Author:		hemlock
Posted:		 2001-02-28 17:49
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According to the FAQ, the RGB conversion matrix used in rgb2yuv.c
appears to be for YPbPr; the matrix for YCbCr is slightly different. =20


Topic:		divx color
Author:		numlock
Posted:		 2001-02-28 17:54
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uninstalled divx 3.11 alpha
downloaded  newest open divx and am having color problems ... after a
few seconds, it appears to have a purple film over it .. like a purple
cover... then it will go away and the colors will look normal for a few
seconds until it happens again.


Topic:		***READ***
Author:		lukinhas
Posted:		 2001-02-28 18:18
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Topic:		Don't understand thing about performance. Need realtime.
Author:		BoBInO
Posted:		 2001-02-28 19:29
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It's not because it is written in C that it isn't efficient.
I suppose you think that Assembler code is faster? Not really, only a
very good assembler programmer can do better code than the compiler. And
even with very good skills, assembler code isn't always more efficient.
And since OpenDivx is in developpement, it isn't the time to put
assembler modules that will more complicate the code than optimize it...

Next, don't expect realtime in a MPEG4 codec, unless you've got a 10Ghz
bazillum... But, maybe in 2-3 years...
Computer power double each 18 months, that's Moore's Law!!!=20

(Sorry for my bad english...)


Topic:		Will Microsoft or OpenDivx charge anything for
re-distributing their encoder/decoder?
Author:		Dan7859
Posted:		 2001-02-28 19:57
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Will Microsoft or OpenDivx charge anything for re-distributing their
encoder/decoder?



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Message: 5
Date: Thu,  1 Mar 2001 15:37:07 +0100
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: "opendivx" <[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenDivX] Compliance

Hi,

I'm working (in fact playing ;-) on my side to understand how the 
MPEG4 compression is working ... So I've read some papers about it, 
for exemple a small part of the MPEG4 ISO paper, and finally I did 
compile the microsoft mpeg4 encoder and decoder "fdis" version (V1)
that is used to be the reference codec as the momusys one is. After 
that I did generate some movie with this codec and wanted to make 
comparaison with the actual opendivx encoder ... but I wonder about 
the fact that there is no compatibility between both encoder / 
decoder ... For instance : a file compressed with the fdis encoder 
won't work with the opendivx decoder and vise-versa ...

What the hell ??? Shouldn't the opendivx be MPEG4 V1 compliant ?

Best regards

- Eric Felten -






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